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Ecological limits?

Hi Mazin,
This might have to be my last contribution to this discussion for now, because the school year is kicking in and my ability to spend time writing things that aren't papers is about to be strictly limited. Perhaps another comrade who is perhaps more well-read than I am can take up this discussion.

I haven't read any Bookchin but I'm very interested to. Honestly, though, I'm not sure what you mean by rejecting a focus on the quantitative limits of nature in favor of its qualitative unfolding. Human society has reached a point where its ways of relating to nature have created a deep and systemic crisis which threatens not only those ways of relating to nature, but much of the biosphere itself. I'm not sure how to think about this without reference to the limits this situation places on our ability to behave without worsening this crisis.

It seems like this explains where your question "Are ecological struggles strategically important for the overthrow of capital?" is coming from—and why I'm having a hard time answering it. If the focus is on the limits of what's possible for us given the ecological crisis, it doesn't really seem to matter whether ecological struggles are strategically necessary to overthrow capitalism, as both are necessary to keep human civilization alive. If you think about the crisis differently, though, posing the question that way might make sense. That being said, I'm not sure how to think about the crisis differently.

As I said, I might have to step back from this discussion—although if you respond, I'll certainly read it, and I hope others respond if I don't. Thanks a lot for engaging! We'll definitely be posting more ecological content on the Solidarity site in the coming months, so there might be opportunities for addressing these questions from different angles in the future. Is there a website you're affiliated with?
-Nick

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