Reply to comment

I like Spivak and I also do

I like Spivak and I also do not know why she is skeptical about socialism . In fact her aproach to it in those comments seems to be not so far from the way she sees capitalism. The two seem to be similarily ambigugous to her. Maybe this is because her 'unfaith' in a state? Or she is so deep into postmodern theory that she lost her faith in any structures? which indeed resembles logic of the capitalism :) I have some ideas about her skepticism, firstly, sometimes I have an impression (maybe Im not right) that many West scholars (im rather from East)misread what happened in (post)communist countries e.g. in the Eeast,which in fact were not so communistic and the nationalistic energy (energy of the "Father";P )prevailed, and also capitalistic energy, the two seem to be connected. OFc. the power or agency of the workers was very limited there, if not restreined totally, and thus it was not 'real' socialism there, but more rigid exploitation which let those rural countries to become more industrial (I mean in USSR). Another case was the ex Jugoslavia which im fan of, but it was not by no means any utopia. From the 60. it turned to capitalism, but there was for much longer time sth like self-management of workers and they were having for some time the means of production, there were worker's councils etc., but then it turned (60s/70s) more technocratic and the father/capitalism was the main director until the partition to more fathers. It was probably more complicated than that but for many, even almost for everyone in my postsocialist country, the communism is the main enemy and this abstracted notion is then being compared with totalitarianism, I mean communism=totalitarianism, and not so many think that it is because nationalism and capitalism were in fact ruling there, and that these are totalitarian. There is many displacements and misrepresentations concerning that matter. Another thing which could be problematic for deconstructivist feminist could be the position, even sexism, of men in communist parties. I think this is because of residual (or maybe even structure) of patriarchal family internalised, I also have an impression that many of communist legendary leaders are very suspicious for many feminists (esp. those who are too much into psychoanalysis). Personally, Im also suspicious of them :) e.g. men from the communist party from Itally were against reproduction rights for woman and because of this (and many disagreements) they became autonomous feminist movement (it was sth like in the midst of XX century). Maybe it was because Italy has the biggest christian lobby nad its propaganda has been spreading there deeply. I dont know, but the point is that I sometimes feel that maybe there is sth nationalistic/autoritarian and patriarchal in out minds/mentality - ofc those are social construcions, but I think they are deeply internalised and the left political leaders and socialists shoud be cautious about it. I think these internalised social codes could have, partly, dicredited those very important social projects and lead to some false accusations and displacements. I think the old social structures were/are stil residuing in out mentality (i think maybe we have even national mentality and this is why we are fixed on our own perspectives), but i dont want to psychologize to much. THus it would be beautifull if there would be socialist academies that could unnationalize our mentalities:) Besides, Im totally for socialism and communism but i think that bad accusations are the results of anachronistic social codes residuing in minds (for example of the communist leaders) and the power of capitalistic structures and relations, those were/are probably the main enemy.

Reply

The content of this field is kept private and will not be shown publicly.
  • Allowed HTML tags: <b> </b> <br> <br /> <a> </a> <em> </em> <strong> </strong> <cite> </cite> <code> </code> <ul> </ul> <ol> </ol> <li> </li> <dl> </dl> <dt> </dt> <dd> </dd> <div> </div> <img> <style> <font> </font> <blockquote> </blockquote> <hr>
  • Lines and paragraphs break automatically.

More information about formatting options

By submitting this form, you accept the Mollom privacy policy.