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being in power during a time of retreat

A big paradox we've got is that socialists who have won office (in the state, or in their union) have an impressive vantage point of how power works. But because of security concerns, these experiences are usually not shared widely.

I have talked with socialists who, after being activists in the rank and file membership of their union (usually organizing "reform caucuses") for many years, ran an slate to challenge the entrenched leadership and then and won office. Often, two things happen: first, the rank and file caucus, missing its key leaders, evaporates; second, the former "opposition" is now in the position of having to administer power during a time of retreat and incredible pressure to become reformist (and lacking a militant base to push things forward from below.) One question is, "is it ever too early to take power?"

When you scale this experience up, it is the heart of one of the big questions that has always vexed revolutionaries. Even on a global level, countries where the working class has a revolution in the absence of further revolutions find themselves isolated, the leadership becomes bureaucratized...



Second point I wanted to make (and I don't think you were arguing this - but it reminded me of a peeve of mine) is that "operating naturally in the normal world" means a hell of a lot of different things within the working class. A lot of folks I've met think this means some strict adherence to "working class values." To me that that seems like a big misunderstanding of the attempts by ex-student radicals to fuse with working class life in the 1970s. Sometimes socialists get to thinking of them/ourselves as total aliens, and it becomes a self-fulfilling isolation. An important insight of the feminist and queer movements has been the incredible diversity of experiences and identities that are out there. At my last job, my coworkers were into, and often participated in groups around: building grandfather clocks, watching history documentaries, doing recreational mathematics, seeing live music and playing guitar, computer programming, playing on an international soccer team, reading about psychology, and on and on.

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