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Third parties, electoral politics, watercoolers

I think this is possibly the best thing that Solidarity has said about electoral politics this go-round. I appreciated your last thoughts about Obama-Clinton-McCain, etc... but I am heartily tired of debating Nader/McKinney when neither of them is going to generate the slightest interest among people who are new to socialism this time around. The buzz for independent politics this national election will obviously be lower than ever. I still think that we should work on the ground where we are active in the Greens, yes. But debating supporting every single independent socialist ticket, and wringing our hands about who will have a higher profile, Nader or McKinney? Ugh. Also, I am so tired of hearing the retreaded argument that "when the Democrat wins, people will become disillusioned that he doesn't fulfill his promises". Bullshit. I've very rarely seen that lesson learned. If ever. I'm only saying rarely in case someone can point me to an example, because I can't think of any, en masse, since the Populists. Not in terms of individuals, obviously that happens. I *do* think that third parties like the Green Party offer an alternative that throws politics-as-usual into question -- when they or independent groups like them TAKE OFFICE, as Ashok did.

So I'm glad that you chronicled a local experience with a very specific dynamic and very specific, concrete gains. Among the lessons that seem evident here are some ones that might seem so obvious as to escape comment: 1) we should do this where we can. We should try -- IF we have an activist base and local credibility, and not otherwise -- to get elected to local positions, for both propaganda and actual ameliorative purposes. 2) It's a damn good idea to be able to operate naturally in the normal world, whether that is membership in a frat, or being on your local PTSA, or defending local libraries from budget cuts, or (well, I probably won't be doing this, but all y'all should) joining city sports leagues, be it bowling or softball or soccer. 3) Oh, man, I am so impressed that Ashok was self-aware the entire time and could FEEL the reformist impulse getting stronger. That seems like an almost heroic struggle against Marx's "being determines consciousness".

maeve66 is a middle school teacher in a working class suburb of Oakland.

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